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Draft Dog Sat Jul 12 8:37am CT

Trade Block Update

Players on the Block:

  • Kareem Hunt RB KC
  • Will Shipley RB PHI

Positions Needed:

  • Running Back
  • Wide Receiver

More interested in getting picks back than players. Allen will be traded by July 19th. The only question is to whom.

Doubledown_3 Fri Jul 11 11:50pm CT

Trade Block Update

Players on the Block:

  • Michael Penix Jr. QB ATL
  • Dak Prescott QB DAL
  • Aaron Rodgers QB PIT
  • Mike Gesicki TE CIN

Positions Needed:

  • Running Back

Willing to trade Dak or penix for running back or first round pick

Captain Luck BB 12/12/8 23 Fri Jul 11 8:40pm CT
Anyone want to make some crazy offers for the #1 pick?
Dawson Fri Jul 11 1:35pm CT

Wow I’ve rarely if at all seen trades reversed but they say it happens regularly?  I’ve been using RT for over 20 years. 

Draft Dog Fri Jul 11 12:39pm CT

Sorry . After RTS response to me and my response to them I won't be posting to the entire board for the remainder of the season.  

RTS Response /explanation:

 

We have over 400 dynasty leagues on RTSports, reversals happen every day
across our leagues as this is not something new. Our job as commissioner
of the leagues is to ensure fairness across the league rather it is
collusion that we can tell or an unbalanced trade. Every trade will not
be perfect, as in almost every deal one side will be favored. However,
there eventually gets to be a point where the unbalance is too much
favoring one side by too large of a portion in terms of player value.

When looking at a trade, we look into several different aspects to
determine if a trade is fair or not. We look at does this trade make
sense for both team rosters given their build, our own player valuation,
RTSports player valuation based on recent drafts, and third party values
of the players. For the recent trade that was reversed, below is where
those players are going in startup dynasty leagues on our site:

Javonte Williams -- 8.7

Marvin Mims -- 14.9

5.2 pick -- 20th round

for

DJ Moore -- 5.5

Joe Mixon -- 6.3

Quentin Johnston -- 17.5

As you can see it's a huge gap between the sides with a total of 15
round difference across the three players. A trade of Javonte Williams
plus Marvin Mims for Joe Mixon and Quentin Johnston would be considered
even and allowed.

 

My email back to RTS:

Thats pretty standard nonsense and pretty vague. Based on that you can make any trade valid or invalid. I will point out a few HUGE holes in your "we consider everything " valuation system and that's tread on the tire and other factors. To make it simple I'll just use Moore and Mims.
How old is D J Moore? How old is MIMS? Is this or is this not a dynasty league? Your thinking is like playing 2D chess on a 3D  board. How many years left to play factor in that is not part of your valuation system which is geared for straight redraft leagues and contains tainted data as a result. You date also is like corrupt DNA because you have co-mingled managed leagues with Best Ball leagues and I don't feel like giving a lecture on why valuations in those formats aren't even close.
 
Who did Chicago Draft that probably will reduce DJ Moore's targets and usage?  That would be Luther Burden III. So how many series will Burden play? How many targets will he take from Moore?  Next, Colston Loveland. The highest TE based on YOUR rankings in the rookie Draft. The 10th player drafted in the 1st round of the NFL draft.
 
How many targets?, how many TD's ?,  will Loveland take from D J Moore? Tell me Logan. I want to know. Don't your evaluations tell you that before you reverse trades?
 
Now of course we have Rome Odunze . He was drafted 9th in 2024 as the heir apparent to D J Moore. He is in his second year and not probably but will begin to displace Moore as the season progresses.
I'm certain your evaluation took none of these factors into account. This is dynasty and yes I'm looking to win now and another guy is not looking to rebuild for future years. I want the last bit of toothpaste in the tube. Playmakers wanted a young pro bowler who might do better this year then last year.
 
So am I right? I don't know. I don't have a crystal ball but neither do you. I simply try to apply science and reasoning to the trades I make or don't make.
 
The job of the RTS commissioner in these leagues should be to watch for collusion and dishonesty. It should not be to impose their thought process on their customers. 
 
Maybe you should ask the owners involved why they made a trade before you let some moron who looked at his RTS cheat sheet decide he didn't like a trade. for any number of reasons. move you into bad actions.
 
I can find a dozen lopsided trades in the last week using your very bad guidelines. Still, it would be my opinion as your reversal is no more or no less then your opinion or that of the staff member who knee jerked after reading a complaint.
 
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Unless this trade is reinstated I would like you to reverse my ownership of all my Dynasty teams.  You can continue to manage them or sell them. Just refund my money. I have no desire to try and navigate RTS interference or be subjected to the emotional state of other owners.
I'll keep my single season best ball teams because you can't tamper with those and losers can only whine in silence once the draft is complete. Of course, If you decide to terminate my account on RTS , I'm Ok with that too. Just refund my money for me Best Ball Teams and we will call it a day for this entirely unpleasant experience.
 
 
I'm also going to paste and copy this entire email to the league message board, so the other owners,10 of whom are probably good guys, get the full picture of what's going on.
 
 
Ziggy

 

Dawson Fri Jul 11 11:54am CT

Last year or year before in another league 2 brothers totally colluded and RT did nothing. I’ve seen worse trades than this one. I’m surprised RT reversed it. Josh Allen trade was more lopsided imo 

Draft Dog Fri Jul 11 10:30am CT

I did call RTS. They in their infinite wisdom reversed the trade because someone in this league. and yes every league has at least one prick, complained.

Well in the past week across many leagues I've seen trades far more imbalanced then the trade I made with Playmakers. But  I let guys manage their teams as they choose based on their valuations not mine.. 

A. I'm done with RTS sports after this season.

B. I will now review and enter an official complaint about every trade that, in my opinion, is lopsided. I'll, of course, not be a pussy and do it anonymously. If RTS had a fucking brain or a pair of balls they would publish who complained and give the parties who made the trade a chance to explain why they made it.

I could give two shits about $1,200 or the price of the team. I spend more then that on Christmas presents for people I don't even like.

 I'm pretty angry and I'm not done yet.

Draft Dog Fri Jul 11 10:13am CT

thats bullshit i'm calling the commisioner

Dawson Fri Jul 11 9:40am CT

Wow did someone call the Commissioner. That’s funny. 

Playmakers Best of the Best III Fri Jul 11 9:23am CT

Trade Block Update

Players on the Block:

  • Joe Mixon RB HOU
  • D.J. Moore WR CHI

Positions Needed:

  • Quarterback
  • Running Back
  • Wide Receiver

best offer